Minnesota Unraveled

All You See is Past: Histories of Star Knowledge (episode 207)

Written by MNHS Podcast | Mar 5, 2026 12:00:00 PM

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Guests

Jim Rock

Jim Rock (Sisseton Dakota Father) has taught Chemistry, Physics and Astronomy for over 40 years at various institutions including reservation, urban and suburban high schools, colleges, tribal colleges and universities. He retired in 2023 as the Director of Indigenous Programming for the Marshall W. Alworth Planetarium and as an instructor in the Physics and Astronomy department of Swenson College of Science and Engineering at the University of Minnesota Duluth where he also taught Physics and University Honors course called Native Skywatchers: Indigenous Ethno- and ArchaeoAstronomy.

Rock advocates for Dark Sky preservation, light pollution reversal, sacred site and wetland restoration, and land return, and Indigenous interpretation at all sites of Turtle Island. He works to decolonize science using a traveling 30x15 StarDome to "Indigenize and Digitize the Skies" for Indigenous community collaborative outreach and storytelling settings. He has published nine articles and two books (2014, 2024) on Dakota constellations and snake effigy mound symbolism and eclipse prediction methodologies. Rock continues to work as a consultant with Saint Paul Public Schools and their Como Elementary Planetarium, as well as the Science Museum of Minnesota on their Indigenous Roundtable for exhibits, and with the Bell Museum Planetarium.

Ron Schmit

Since 1986, Ron Schmit has been an active member of the astronomy community in the Twin Cities. He is a member of the Minnesota Astronomical Society and serves as a NASA Solar System Ambassador. He has been an educator of astronomy at the Science Museum of Minnesota, the Minneapolis Planetarium, the Eisenhower Observatory in Hopkins and the Staring Lake Observatory in Eden Prairie. Since 2014, Schmit has been the Observatory Coordinator for Jackson Middle School in Champlin. The school is home to an observatory and planetarium where students come to discover news and lessons from the frontier of space. As Observatory Coordinator, Schmit continues his quest to explore astronomy, which has always included the desire to help others and to open them up to the wonders of the cosmos.

Cindy Blaha

Dr. Cindy Blaha is a retired Professor of Physics & Astronomy at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota. Dr. Blaha began teaching and conducting research with students in Carleton after receiving her B.S and Ph.D in physics and astrophysics from the University of Minnesota. Her astrophysics research centers on galaxy-wide census of emission-line regions in nearby galaxies. Dr. Blaha was also a Co-Principal Investigator in the eAlliance project, an NSF ADVANCE program aimed at forming peer-mentoring groups for women faculty in physics and astronomy. After 36 years of teaching, Dr. Blaha retired from Carleton but maintains her connections with the college’s Goodsell Observatory as well as her colleagues.

Primary Sources

Manuscript Collections

Joseph Smith Papers (see esp. Journal, 1832-1834), accessed online.

Lawrence Taliaferro Papers, 1813-1868 (bulk 1821-1839).

Northwestern Archaeological Survey field notebooks and related volumes, pre-1880, 1880-1895.

Pamphlets relating to the study of astronomy in Minnesota, 1946-

Newspapers

Covin, Chandra. “Two sites in St. Paul will be renamed to reflect cultural significance to Dakota tribes.” MPRnews. May 22, 2025.

Stanich, Susan. “Ely pictographs linked to the heavens.” The Duluth News-Tribune (Duluth, Minn.), April 6, 1992.

Wescoe, Dan. “Things are looking up in Champlin.” Star Tribune (Minneapolis, Minn.), November 8, 2005.

Published Primary Sources

Astronomy and Astro-Physics vols. 11-13 (1892-1894) [preceded by The Sidereal Messenger. In 1895, Carleton sold the journal to the University of Chicago where it was renamed The Astrophysical Journal].

Carver, Jonathan. Three Years Travels through the interior parts of North-America, for more than five thousand miles. Philadelphia: Key and Simpson, 1796.

Payne, William W. “Carleton College Observatory.” Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific 3, no. 15 (March 28, 1891): 85-87.

Payne, William W. “Time Service of Carleton College Observatory, at Northfield, Minnesota.” Science 2, no. 64 (September 17, 1881): 445.

Schoolcraft, Henry Rowe. Narrative Journal of Travels through the Northwestern Regions of the United States extending from Detroit through the Great Chain of American Lakes, to the Sources of the Mississippi River. Albany: E. & E. Hosford, 1821).

The Sidereal Messenger: A Monthly Review of Astronomy vols. 1-10 (March 1882-December 1891) [a leading astronomy journal published out of Carleton College].

Winchell, Newton H. The Aborigines of Minnesota: A Report Based on the Collections of Jacob V. Brower, and on the Field Surveys and Notes of Alfred J. Hill and Theodore H. Lewis. The Pioneer Company, 1911.

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